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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:58 pm    Post subject: interesting read Reply with quote

check out this article in the ny times business section

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/13/business/norman-sas-inventor-of-electric-football-dies-at-87.html?_r=1&ref=football
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heard about that last week.

I still have a whole lotta NFL-painted teams from back in the day. It was more of a team color thing than a logo thing, but I remember being so excited when they arrived.

Like many folks, I had a hard time making the players do what I wanted. I did enjoy flicking the little eraser-sized football for a "pass" play. (I think I was more partial to All-Star Baseball growing up.)

There was a table hockey player in the Detroit area a number of years ago, Norbert Revels, who was like an electric football champion. Much like table hockey, he traveled for it and everything.

I believe Tudor made a table hockey game for a time. Maybe one of the historians on the board could fill us in.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I have 2 Tudor try action hockey game from early to mid 70' s. they had 2 versions of banana type players and had gears as well. Used a lite plastic puck same size as original Munro wood, but much lighter in my opinion they had some of the most realistic player artwork and they came with a number sheet so you could customize your players. It was the game my best friend had so he would kill me on it as I would do the same at my house pin my HNIC. That said , bummer to hear his passing. Probably spent more time on elec football than table hockey growing up
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too had a set in 69 (Jets and Colts). I then started collecting teams with my son about 3 years ago. I collect teams from 1968-70 and have 56 with about 6 left to complete the collection.

Here are a couple of my observations from buying/selling on ebay with respect to collecting between the 2 hobbies:

1) Certain Tudor teams can bring in an excess of $400, likewise for certain vintage hockey games

2) Only a couple of football boards can bring in $200+. A mint condition Super Bowl III or IV set.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tudor had a couple of hockey games in the late 60's that were endorsed by the NHLPA (one of them had the exact same frame as the Bobby Hull endorsed Munro versions), but the games and players were really manufactured by Munro. All Star Hockey was one of them.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tudor Metal Products Corp. of NY,USA 1st TH games came out in 1960.
1 stationary 1 slot game with front and back tin players!

In 1962, the 60 Deluxe game now included a side attachment (much like
those seen on Gotham's Electric Slide Hockey and 3 Eagle games, unlike
those, Tudor's had an actual picture (not a drawing) from a game between
the Leafs and Habs. Players on the benches jerseys can't be seen, thus; no
legal issues). Mutoscopes "1940 Backboard Hockey" coin-op game had the
1st side attachment, though technically not TH. A Beauty (on google)- that
came out in late 1939.

In 1965/66 till 1971, Munro manufactured Tudors games.

In 1969 Tudor's games were endorsed by the NHLPA including the 1st
appearance of Robert Gordon Orr aka numba 4. The 1st multi player endorsed games ushered in, what else, the multi player endorsement era.

In 1972 Tudor made spring driven games (MA Henry and Irwin also made
games with both mechanisms). NHLPA Players Hockey (4 models, same name) saw Tudor's unique peak. Quotes from model 760 ad;

The most advanced hockey game you can play.
The only games with Electroscore. Name lights up and automatically advances with each score.
The only games with 6 extra players for quick Second Line substitutions.
Extra self -sticking numbers- allows official team roster changes.
The only games with 7 different action player poses.
The only hockey games with Goalie- Sweep for real behind the net goal stick
action. The only games with interchangeable sticks for the beginner and expert (Coleco had the 1st banana blade players in 1971 but, these included
curved and straight blade attachments, hard to explain).
The only hockey games with combination delayed action puck-drop and
working timer that swings for total visibility-pivots for center and end zone
face-offs. Extra position in front of opponents net for Pull-the Goalie action.
Integral plastic legs pivot up for storage-remain attached to game to eliminate loss.
All 16 official NHLPA teams available.
All 16 official city models will be available.
Sturdy aluminum web-reinforced legs on model 770.
Much of this was patent pending or TM.

Tudor was the 1st NA co. to produce slot games for 25 year I believe.
Benej is the longest I believe.
Stiga (Sweden) is at 55 years and counting.

Bonus obscure Tudor reference-
The 1960s red cylinder puck (like a roller puck but, with a red wood piece
in the middle) is thought to be Tudor's- Very Rare.
Especially this 1 but, all pucks etc. Collectors keep in mind, all parts easily
removed and or not directly attached to a game are tough to replace IOW
incomplete gms are all over, complete gms aren't.
Example- The Foster Hewitt referees with a nice box are more valuable then
an other wise complete game.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gothm's outer sides were on both sides but, for what it's worth, Mutoscope
Eagle's, Munro's and Tudor's were much more alike in scale.

Munro's larger outer sides are rare, 1 version of 1962s National Hockey.
Gotham's is thought to date after 1962 and as said was different.

Eagle's came with an actual clock/timer on the 1962 Official and a slightly
smaller side on the 1962 HNIC and the same side also came with the
1962 National Hockey League, which is the rarest but, least collectible.

Munro is the only known co. to have outer ends (not glass) starting in 1958.

TH game years almost always reflect the 1st year they were available and
that's usually the end of that year.
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