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Attention Montreal fans- Dryden or Roy?
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BigBadBruins
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:21 pm    Post subject: Attention Montreal fans- Dryden or Roy? Reply with quote

I'm getting ready to paint a "greats" team of Canadians. I'm trying to keep the time frame from the 60's up til now. I would love to see anybodys Canadian team from this time span. Your top players for each postion. Roy and Dryden is not an easy one to settle. I know Roy played for Colorado for a while, but he had a great career for the Habs too. This super group will take on my Bruins. Thanks for any input- David
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roy for sure!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's gotta be the great, cool kenny dryden!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the younger crowd just remembers Roy because they have seen him. I watched them both from the time they were rookies, and Roy has nothing on Ken Dryden. Roy was certainly great, but especially towards the latter part of his career he was a bit erratic, often giving up bad goals as often as he made stunning saves.

Ken Dryden simply took over a game. There's no comparison- Dryden all day long.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just look at the 72 Summit Series. Dryden was exposed for what he really was. Without great D in front of him he was a good not great goalie.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KEN DRYDEN over Roy on talent, cups, brains and masks.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

while he never really played that well against the russians '75, '72- dryden showed his greatness in game eight in moscow, when it counted most, great goalie!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never saw Dryden played and I was too young to recall Roy's fisrt cup back in 86, but I surely did follow the incredible 1993 run. There was good players for the "CH" at that time, but none were at the level of Roy. He praticly won the cup by himself. One of the major reason Roy is not leading for the most wins in career today is because he was sharing the net with Hayward for the first 4-5 years of his carrer resulting in 20-25 wins per season. He constantly kept a goal against average of less than 3 back in a time where 3.25-3.50 was pretty good.

Like I said, I never saw Dryden play, but I think his stats can backup any one choosing him! The guy had more tie games (74) than loss (57) during his whole career! His "worst" season saw him "only" win 30 games! I was told that Dryden had the bad habbit of allowing 1 or 2 bad goals when the Habs where ahead by a large margin, but he was at his best when the score was tight.

Dryden had a superior (and amazing!) team in front of him. You can appreciate how the famous Big Three was dominant at that time by taking Dryden's substitute, Bunny Larocque. Larocque had amazing stats with the Habs, but when he was traded to Toronto, there was no more Robinsons, Savard or Lapointe in front of him and he never achieved the same level of performance. I'm not saying that Dryden would have suffered the same fate if he had played elsewhere, but the choice between Roy and Dryden would possibly be more obvious today if he had played for a less talented Canadiens team. But it's not Dryden's fault if the late 1970s Habs were too much for the league!

Roy's defensive squad was not that bad either with guys like Chelios, Green, Ludwig and an older but still reliable Robinson. However, I don't think this group was as talented as the Big Three. And Montreal's offense was not comparable to the one during the 70s, meaning Roy had possibly more close wins than Dryden, that is, games where you need to raise above everyone in order to have a significant positive impact in the outcome of the game.

Finally, I think that when a whole new generation of goalies copy your style to replicate your success, it most mean something in regard of your talent.

All this blabla to say that my choice would be without any hesitation, Patrick Roy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dryden. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget those two guys,put in Gump Worsley. 4 Cups is pretty good. Cheers
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

6 Stanley Cups in 8 years....is there any doubt?.... Ken Dryden was the greatest.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is turning out to be a great comparison. How about your starting lineup? Whos your center, your wingers and d-men? Montreal's had so many great ones.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put a vote in for Denis Herron

Great mask.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither Dryden or Roy. It has to be "Red Light" Racicot
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacques Plante. Best mask ever
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta go with Dryden as he won the 1971-72 cup as a rookie against my beloved BLACKHAWKS!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta go with Dryden as he won the 1971-72 cup as a rookie against my beloved BLACKHAWKS!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make that the 70-71 finals.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make that the 70-71 finals.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0bj0KkW1OY&playnext=1&list=PL658637C687A292D6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GslZ6plLEB4&feature=fvsr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5lPz-82ZJY
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David, it's quite simple, The lanky Dryden was the cornerstone of La Canadienne. He was exciting to watch and your second choice should none other than the "Gumper"
As good as Roy was, he never impressed me.
You never heard Dryden shoot his mouth off.....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make it Dryden and paint him with his chin on the end of his stick - he'll still save it!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, Dryden in goal for sure. Plante finished his career in a completely different league and Canadian local. Dryden dominated, stayed true to Montreal and retired.

As for players, wow, Boom Boom, the Rocket, Sevard, Corny, holy cow, the possibilities are endless really. 25 cups don"t really lie. there are loads of greats to put on that team and face Cheevers.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, Dryden in goal for sure. Plante finished his career in a completely different league and Canadian local. Dryden dominated, stayed true to Montreal and retired.

As for players, wow, Boom Boom, the Rocket, Sevard, Corny, holy cow, the possibilities are endless really. 25 cups don"t really lie. there are loads of greats to put on that team.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat Roy is/was better then Ken Dryden,give me a break,players are getting better all the time. My DVR is better then my VCR too!!!!
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